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	<title>Comments on: 3 Days of Copenhagen Climate Change talks and walks</title>
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	<description>4 Action Points For Holyrood To Avert Climate Chaos</description>
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		<title>By: Cop 15 Report &#171;</title>
		<link>http://holyrood350.org/2009/12/unccc-talks-11-12-0/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Cop 15 Report &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;The colour­ful tens of thou­sands car­ried plac­ards say­ing ‘Politi­cians only talk, Lead­ers lead’, ‘There is No Planet B’ and ‘Sys­tem Change not Cli­mate Change’. At the end an indige­nous leader from the Amer­i­cas said — to roars of agree­ment — that the real solu­tion is not the cli­mate mar­ket; the real solu­tion is sim­ply to leave the coal and oil and gas in the ground, and not to try and make a quick fix with poi­so­nous nuclear. Before, on the march, he and all the indige­nous peo­ples had been singing ‘The Cli­mate Mar­ket is a Big Lie’. The fear is that the politi­cians will nego­ti­ate a deal where the North just car­ries on with planet-wrecking busi­ness as usual, and pays some money to the politi­cians of the Global South in exchange for them say­ing they’ll pro­tect their forests to keep absorb­ing some of the CO2 — mean­while car­bon lev­els will keep on rock­et­ing, the arc­tic melt­ing, forests burn­ing and per­mafrost melt will increas­ingly release methane. The fear is that they’ll make it look like a great deal, but it could be just like the G8 meet­ing in Gle­nea­gles in 2005 when Bob Gel­dorf and the Make Poverty His­tory cam­paign got the Gov­ern­ments to promise they’d end poverty in Africa, and then things just got worse.&#8221; Read the full report here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] “The colour­ful tens of thou­sands car­ried plac­ards say­ing ‘Politi­cians only talk, Lead­ers lead’, ‘There is No Planet B’ and ‘Sys­tem Change not Cli­mate Change’. At the end an indige­nous leader from the Amer­i­cas said — to roars of agree­ment — that the real solu­tion is not the cli­mate mar­ket; the real solu­tion is sim­ply to leave the coal and oil and gas in the ground, and not to try and make a quick fix with poi­so­nous nuclear. Before, on the march, he and all the indige­nous peo­ples had been singing ‘The Cli­mate Mar­ket is a Big Lie’. The fear is that the politi­cians will nego­ti­ate a deal where the North just car­ries on with planet-wrecking busi­ness as usual, and pays some money to the politi­cians of the Global South in exchange for them say­ing they’ll pro­tect their forests to keep absorb­ing some of the CO2 — mean­while car­bon lev­els will keep on rock­et­ing, the arc­tic melt­ing, forests burn­ing and per­mafrost melt will increas­ingly release methane. The fear is that they’ll make it look like a great deal, but it could be just like the G8 meet­ing in Gle­nea­gles in 2005 when Bob Gel­dorf and the Make Poverty His­tory cam­paign got the Gov­ern­ments to promise they’d end poverty in Africa, and then things just got worse.” Read the full report here. […]</p>
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		<title>By: nickwilding</title>
		<link>http://holyrood350.org/2009/12/unccc-talks-11-12-0/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>nickwilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks so much for the update justin... great to get a sense of the action, connections, energy sat back home in Scotland... if you have a chance would be brill if you posted same into fieryspirits website too I know lots of folk might be interested...
nick
PS I&#039;d love to hear more about &quot; We reck oned that recov er ing com mu nity own er ship, action and effec tiv ness in the Global North is as vital as pro tect ing exist ing com mu ni ties and shared own er ship in the Global South.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks so much for the update justin… great to get a sense of the action, connections, energy sat back home in Scotland… if you have a chance would be brill if you posted same into fieryspirits website too I know lots of folk might be interested…<br />
nick<br />
PS I’d love to hear more about ” We reck oned that recov er ing com mu nity own er ship, action and effec tiv ness in the Global North is as vital as pro tect ing exist ing com mu ni ties and shared own er ship in the Global South.”</p>
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